buying into rust was good and will hopefully prove the language further
not going to save them but can make their platform better for those that don’t move to linux
Did they really need ai to make a dumpster fire with the Microsoft logo for them. Jesus Christ pay someone to spend 30 minutes in an online Photoshop clone. I’m so sick of ai images.
I maintain that Microsoft peaked with Windows 3.1 and they’ve been fucking it up ever since.
Having played around with it recently, I have to say the ui was pretty bad (try it: https://www.pcjs.org/software/pcx86/sys/windows/3.11/ ) Go to Windows 95 and you get all the basic desktop ui principals that modern desktops use.
I grew up with it so to me, the UI was great.
I’m from the line command era.
I think peak was XP.
Vista was shit. 7 was alright, but not better than XP. 8 was terrible. 10 was worse than 7, but still meh. 11 is dog shit.
XP was when everything went to shit. It was awful and all the enshittification began right there.
XP was the first consumer OS with the NT kernel which was far far more reliable than win32 in the previous ones. I remember people bragging that they could leave their computer running and it wouldn’t crash -and that seemed crazy. I used windows 2000 for many years as a stripped down XP, but not many people got it. I think the interface peaked around 95, but the kernel was terribly unreliable.
My main focus (apart from zero security and horrible multi user) was all the anti consumer additions they put into it.
XP was so bad, that I left it for linux shortly after it came out.
98* was pure garbage. You could literally bypass the login screen on 98 because it had no real user account and tokens, just profiles for convenience. Driver support was awful, there was no memory protection so drivers constantly caused bsod. XP was the first time the consumer desktop got the NT foundation, meaning real user/session security, far better stability under load, and way fewer “one program crashed, so the OS is toast” moments.
XP had its problems too, it’s still Windows afterall and Windows was always garbage. But 98 was awful.
I think you’re mixing up ME and 2000. ME (consumer) came after 98 (consumer) and 2000 (business) was the NT (business) version. I ran 2000 for a few years. Huge step up from 98/ME in stability and less eye candy bloat than XP.
No, I’m not.
98, 98se, and ME are all 9x, pre NT.
Windows 2000 was NT, but it was server and business focused, so I left it out as most people did not run 2000 on their personal computers. XP was the first consumer targeting Windows with NT, and it was a huge step up in security and stability over 9x, despite how awful it was.
I’m not praising XP, I’m just refuting that 98 was great. It was hot garbage, and you could run a very secure and stable Linux distro back then, we stuck with windows back then because Wine wasn’t mature (Proton/bottles didn’t exist), the hardware wasn’t good enough for good emulation, and we needed binary compatibility because we wanted the windows exclusives. We never used Windows 98 because it was a good OS, we used it because it came with every computer you bought and all the software you wanted ran on it.
You literally wrote 2000 in the first line.
You’re right, I’m sorry. That was a mistake.
Yes 98 was terrible. 2000 wasn’t so bad.
But XP started the data harvesting, the lying to users, the forced applications, and so much more.
On top of even worse security than 2000 (also nt) had.
I could go on for days how bad it was.
my older brother thinks they peaked with win 95. I think they peaked with Win 98 SE.
Microsoft did one good thing: they finally got me to jump to a Linux based OS on my PC.
You’re absolutely right about this. I jumped ships too.
Same
Why did they not just keep windows 10, change the background picture and icons and call it windows 11?
What’s that? More AI? -Microsoft-
Tl;dr: no.
They updated the Lens app (pretty much the best scanning app available) UI and haven’t enshittified it! I call that a win! I wish I could now pin it to a specific version on the play store.
Their Linux marketing department seems to have been quite effective over the last year.
Do they ever?
The company was literally founded on the principal of “thanks for all the free software I learned on, from this point forward, everyone needs to pay (me) for everything and sharing is bad”. Sort of paraphrased from Bill Gates email to the hobbyists. Then it got big by selling vapourware based on nepotism and then nearly stealing a product to fill the order. Then they got their fingers into legislators and it got worse for everyone.
Moving from a shitty proprietary web renderer to participate in Chromium development was an improvement.
I disagree. Doing so reduced the amount of diversity in rendering engines and reinforced the idea that lazy site owners don’t have to test against more than one browser. That’s a loss for the Web as a whole.
Doing so reduced the amount of diversity in rendering engines
It killed the last proprietary engine. It made the web more free.
That’s a loss for the Web as a whole.
You’re wrong.
I mean the choice between only two browser engines isn’t what I would call “free” though, especially since Firefox is also pulling more and more bullshit.
He made a good overall point. Just saying he is wrong doesn’t actually make him wrong.
What about WebKit? That makes 3 browser engines although it’s primarily used on Apple devices.
What about WebKit? That makes 3 browser engines although it’s primarily used on Apple devices.
WebKit-GTK is fine, Ladybird and Servo also exist.
The vehement defense of a shitty, proprietary Microsoft browser here is astonishing.
I mean the choice between only two browser engines isn’t what I would call “free” though, especially since Firefox is also pulling more and more bullshit.
Gecko and Chromium are both fully free software. Old Edge isn’t.
He made a good overall point.
No. It was a very weak defense of proprietary software.
Just saying he is wrong doesn’t actually make him wrong.
Just saying that doesn’t make it wrong but the “argument” is wrong.
Less diversity isn’t good, the argument wasn’t in favour of proprietary software, it was against platform monoculture.
Less diversity isn’t good
Less proprietary crap is good. Free software is always preferable to fake diversity through proprietary Microsoft products.
Microsoft: Kills crappy, insecure browser no one used and everyone hated.
Lemmy: BAD!
At the time people welcomed it; Trident really was terrible. However, since then Gecko’s marketshare has fallen into the single digits on account of Mozilla’s terrible governance. WebKit isn’t exactly a big alternative, either (and is often regarded as the new Trident in terms of web standard adherence). Opera used to have Presto but nope, that’s also Chromium now.
That means we’re now stuck in a situation where an advertising company controls how the web works for 75% of all users. And they’re happily abusing that power.
I’m rooting for Servo and Ladybird as new entrants into the market but both are small projects trying to challenge a multi-billion dollar industry titan who wants the web to be as complex as possible so that only they and their token competitors can exist.
We might actually have been better off with Microsoft trying to keep Trident relevant.
And now they moved to another crappy engine ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ what changed? Nothing much, except that they are locked in with Google’s bs.
Nothing changed going from IE Edge to Chromium Edge. Say that with a straight face next time.
Tried that browser on Linux. It crashes when you save a file. It doesn’t let you click on the URL bar to edit it (only keyboard works). “If it compiles, it ships, no testing needed”
The dumped legacy protocols and defaults that were insecure. That’s pretty big for a company that historically doesn’t do that.
When was the last time they did anything right? I manage their products and services for a living. It all sucks to some degree. It’s just the default because they cornered the market a long time ago and continue to strangle it to death with legacy garbage. Now they don’t innovate, they acquire other shit to compete where they shouldn’t, fail, rinse and repeat.
There are some decent performance and memory improvements in .Net 10, particularly around iterators and local variables within iterator scopes.
Beyond that, na, not much.
A .Net dev in the flesh? I’ll pray for you /s
.NET is an excellent platform, c# and typescript are amazing (made by the same guy btw.), Visual Studio and VSCode are the best in their categories.
Nothing really replace Excel (don’t even mention LibreOffice, that’s gonna make you look like a dunkey)
Gaming and hardware support still better on Windows.
The spyware are perfected like no other company can make them, as their nagging system, which you can’t really get rid of.
Scaling your infrastructure on Azure is the easiest, as for scaling your bills, it’s demonstrated in TFA.
Having some price hikes, from time to time, keep the excitement alive, see the latest github price hike tentative.
So the only win here is that you got to extend your time on Windows 10 for one year. That isn’t saying much because you’re just going to confront the same issues again, a year later. Again, do yourself a favor and grab the Windows 10 version that guarantees you til 2032. By then, you could skip Windows 11 entirely and see what else is on the horizon.
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