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    Here are some numbers to consider.

    The US sold $441 billion worth of goods and services to Canada in 2024.

    Canada sold $482 billion worth of goods and services to the US in 2024.

    The US has a populating of 334.9 million people.

    Canada has a population of 40.1 million people.

    Per capita, every American man, woman, and child spent $1,316.81 on Canadian goods and services.

    Candians spent $12,019. 95 on American good and services.

    Who isn’t pulling their weight in this trading relationship?

    This isn’t about illegal immigration and it isn’t about the 20 lbs of fentanyl that tried to cross the border from Canada.

    This is about the billionaire class raising taxes on the poor and raising prices for Americans.

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      On the topic of fentanyl, if I may be so bold as to ask, do that many Americans genuinely give a shit about any fentanyl coming across any of our borders? I suppose those who do drugs that are likely to be cut with fentanyl, but as an American whose drug use consists of at most alcohol and legal weed, fentanyl isn’t something I’m particularly worried about. I’m not saying it’s not destructive or dangerous, but it’s not something I ever feel worried about. Maybe I’m just too poor to be exposed to people who do the kind of drugs that get laced with fentanyl, or maybe I’m lacking more empathy than I realize, but while I’ve seen sad examples of people whose lives have been destroyed by opiates and fentanyl in news programs and documentaries, I also have a hard time not seeing the fear of Fentanyl as anything more than wealthy parents like Trump, who know their kids are doing cocaine or other drugs, worried that their kids (like Don Jr) will accidentally OD on some laced drugs, which again, maybe it’s an empathy problem on my part, but maybe if you aren’t smart enough to test your drugs maybe you shouldn’t be doing them. I don’t know, it just seems like dhe dumbest issue to tank the whole economy over (unless that was the goal all along, and you just want a boogeyman-scapegoat for an excuse). It’s not that I even really care about “the economy” that much either, but I do care about ordinary people being able to afford housing and food.

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        Never believe Trump’s stated reasons for doing something, because Trump is notorious for being a pathological liar. Fentanyl doesn’t have the slightest thing at all to do with Traitorapist Trump’s new tariffs. The amount of fentanyl coming from Canada is almost zero. In his first term, Trump told a documented 20-25 lies per day 7 days per week. The fentanyl thing is just part of his quota of 25 lies for that day. The best way to understand Trump is that he literally thinks dishonesty is a virtue and honesty is a vice.

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        If there wasn’t such a huge demand for drugs in the US they wouldn’t smuggle them in. They will continue to be smuggled in regardless of any trade war. I guess he plans on keeping them going forever.

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      This is hurting the wealthy also since it jacks up costs on businesses. I wonder what the conversations he must be having with his donors must be. Maybe he is picking favored businesses.

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      Who isn’t pulling their weight in this trading relationship?

      Not how that works. Even with a “trade deficit”, a trade relationship must have an element of bilaterality. You’re exchanging something for something. The exception would be when one side militarily has their boot on the other side, i.e., sweatshop/imperialist relations. Which the U.S./Canada relationship is not exactly a poster child of.

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    LeT’s StArT a TrAdE wAr WiTh OuR AlLiEs -my fucking countrymen, apparently

    I hate this fucking timeline

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      It seems to me like these proposed tariffs were just a way to get Canada and Mexico to come grovel and kiss Trump’s ring. Both countries naturally want to avoid such a destructive policy being put in place, so they’ll do what Trump asks for now. I expect these sorts of actions by Trump to continue throughout his term though. This begs the question, when will America’s historic allies finally have enough? I was thinking these tariffs would be the ripping off the band-aid moment that spurs Canada and potentially the rest of the west to start re-structuring its economy away from such an unreliable partner. I guess this tentative status quo will continue for now.

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        Oh the damage is done, there is no way Canada (not going to talk for other nations) will ever have as nice a trade relationship with the US. This was a wake up call for us and if we don’t diversify our trading partners then we deserve the pain the orange man will bring.

        Keep in mind we have spent 50 plus years getting the raw end of the deal with the US (softwood lumber, coal, power, oil sands, water etc.) all well telling ourselves that this is building a strong bond with our neighbours, only to now have it all turn to ash.

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          Totally agree. If we can’t at least expect certainty out of the current arrangement, then we should stop with any sweetheart deals. It’s ironic that the gist of Trump’s views on international relations center on other countries pulling more of their weight, and it seems he will ultimately accomplish that, albeit by burning all the bridges established with said countries.

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            His obsession with trade deficits is really weird coming from the US that outsourced everything they could and became the largest consumer market. Its like he thinks other countries did that to the US and not you know what happened/is happening.

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      Just remember who is influencing Putin’s Sock Puppet. These assholes are not be trusted for a single New York second. I am certain the Canadians and Mexicans have been preparing to reduce their reliance on trade with the USA. The 30 days for both sides will be used to regroup and go at it again. To mobilize 10,000 personnel for the so-called border problem will take longer than one month.

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        Sad to say, we should have diversified our trading many years ago (there was even an attempt 20 plus years ago under Chrétien). I have seen in my life Canada actually move away from trade with not US partners (CARIBCAN getting gutted for example). This stunt just shows how wrong it is to put all our eggs (good luck getting them now americans) in one basket. We need to stop sending raw materials (wood, ore, oil, coal, uranium, potash, etc.) to be made into finished goods and then buying those goods back. Transporting oilsand is a good example of how utterly stupid and wasteful this policy is (like we are talking about moving effectively mud with some crude in it across north america).

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    Congrats Trump and his buddies, you managed to not only save Trudeau but made the nation rally behind him out of national pride and defense.

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    Trump is so horrible he got Americans to side with the country putting retaliatory tariffs on them.

    Also it should be pointed out that Trump essentially declared war on an ally because he wanted to seize Canadian land.

    Any talk about drug trafficking is silly since the first thing Trump did was pardon one of the biggest drug traffickers in the world, Ross Ulbricht

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        Trump isn’t trying to fix things. He is trying to break it all and end up a dictator. He isn’t healthy so he wont live long enough to enjoy being a despot like putin. Trump honestly can’t see his own death. Few can. That narcissist will die with a surprised look on his face. His father lived a long time but he wasn’t a overweight coke head.

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        IMO they should be decriminalized for personal use, but having corporations selling hard drugs is a terrible idea

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    As an American, I’m rooting for Canada.

    But this all feels very by design of Putin to fracture US alliances.

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      I’m so upset at my Canadian family members who supported Trump.

      I got an uncle who was constantly saying he supports trump cause he’ll “run the country the country like a business” - i don’t think either trump or him actually understand business all that well.

      I hope Canadian-European relations get stronger, and hopefully Canadian-American relations will be rebuilt once this fucker is gone

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        Does your uncle realize trump was able to bankrupt a casino? Where they can can almost literally print money. And not just one, but three of them. This man is literally one of the most inept businessmen I have ever seen.

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            But he looked smaaaat on the apprentice. That’s all the fucking morons who support him seem to remember about Trump.

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            This is the most accurate statement. There’s a reason why Trump wants Greenland, Canada, and Panama. Russia also wants all these. Wants free reign to move their boats and military through these areas and to be able to use the Panama Canal again.

            The more I see all the stuff going on here, the more I am coming to realize that the orange taintstainy is just a Putin muppet puppet.

            Everything this man does seems to appease Russia.

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        He will run the country like he does all of his businesses; into the ground.

        He even failed at running a casino. Except this time he will likely be burying thousands of Americans along with the country.

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        That’s the fallacy that I thought was learned back with Ross Perot. You don’t run a country like a business. It’s a government.

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          I’m pretty sure that people who say they want to “run the country like a business” just think it sounds good but haven’t put 2 braincells worth of thought into it. Businesses exist to make money. Government exists to serve citizens.

          Do you want firefighters showing up to your burning house and asking for a credit card before they put out the fire? Or maybe have the post office decide that it’s not profitable enough to service entire states? The whole idea is moronic.

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          How was it learned and when. Where I can lear more? Wikipedia didn’t have any clear answers

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        “Run the country like a business” is the dumbest thing ever. If the government was run like a business they’d raise taxes because what business doesn’t want to increase revenue? There would also be an open door immigration policy, because what business turns away potential customers?

        Personally I want the government run like a non-profit organization whose goal is to make my life better, but that’s just me.

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        I’m up in the middle of nowhere Ontario in the north surrounded mostly by trees and lakes and not even remotely close to anything American … but yet I still have a few friends and family who love your dumb orange beanbag president.

        I don’t understand the pull that this idiot has on people or the millionaires and billionaires that pour their money into him for some god forsaken reason.

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          It is actually perfectly simple.

          Mr. Trump gives people easy answers to extremely complex problems, the fact that he is rich means that people just assume he is right about it.

          People want easy answers that don’t blame them, Trump has perfected the style of of talking where he is ambiguous enough that people fill in the blanks themselves.

          It is classic fascism speech.

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        Do you tell him that Trump has filed for bankruptcy six times with his companies? What does that say about his business acumen? How often has your uncle filed for bankruptcy?

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          That doesn’t work. The hardcore Trump supporters think bankruptcy is a genius life hack to get out from having to repay debts.

          They actually believe it’s smart to borrow money, hide them in other businesses and personal accounts, then declare bankruptcy to keep the money. To the rest of the world, that’s called “embezzlement.”

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        My mum last night on text.

        “We’ll see what shithead Trump retaliates with tomorrow. The only way to stop the maniac is with a bullet!”

        “Have you noticed how shithead has not left the White House since he was sworn in?”

        “Trudeau is doing a great job!” (Referring to the presser)

        I’m glad I don’t have your family OP

        Edit - for the kids out there my mum is 74. She’s a baby boomer. Some of them are good people. They are not well off. I told my parents with the tariffs coming if they find themselves struggling to let me know because I will help in any way I can.

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        he supports trump cause he’ll “run the country the country like a business”

        THIS MOTHERFUCKER BANKRUPTED A CASINO.

        People say they want him to run the country like a business, but that man bankrupted a money printing machine, probably because he was doing all kinds of illegal shit and didn’t actually run his business like a business. Why would he run a money printing country any different than his money printing business.

        My dumbass uncle feels the same way as yours, and I have to bite my tongue so after to remind him that he and trump have something in common: they both embezzled from their company until it died.

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        i’m still waiting for an explanation on how running anything like a business is objectively a good thing.

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        The “run government like a business” crowd gets to me. I’d like to see business run like a government. Owned and controlled by the workers.

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          It’s one of the dumbest perspectives I’ve heard that continues to irk me. Why the fuck would you want something that’s supposed to do X to do Y instead?

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      both Canadian and American retirement portfolios will suffer. i don’t know why anyone would root for such a thing at all

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      I just hope Canada, Europe and Mexico unite and start working closely together. Fuck the USA under Musk (trump). Together we are strong. Much stronger than individually.

      Feels bad to say but the USA haven’t been a reliable partner since the first time they elected Trump. Who knows what they’ll stand for in 4 years? A normal person or a complete lunatic that has already disassembled the legal structures few days after getting into office? Hard to know. Very unreliable and extremely concerning.

      I cant believe americans are letting this happen while sitting by idly.

      I can’t think of a single alliance in history that went from unbreakable to garbage within three weeks because of the whims of one person that should honestly be „dealt with“ before it’s too late.

      Writing this as a German with rather conservative views.

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      I honestly think Putin is too busy throwing millions of young citizens into his meat grinder to give a shit about the USA at this point.

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        You would be surprised what people have time to think about while browsing their phone on the throne.

        If you think Ukraine consumes 100% of his thoughts then you are not giving puttin enough credit. He isn’t infamous because he is dumb, he is infamous because he is cunning, underhanded, and brutal in what he does.

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      Yes, it’s Putin who’s totally controlling trump and making him do tarrifs. After all, Putin leads hamas, putin did 9/11, putin killed millions in Iraq, Putin killed millions the middle east, Putin’s funding UAE and Israeli genocides against Sudan and Palestine How peaceful the world would be without Putin /s

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          No he is dead on. The US has been shooting itself in the foot for decades in order to murder little brown kids.

          The only way your argument makes any sense is if Russia ordered Biden to commit genocide and throw the election. The DNC decided to run a geriatric against Trump. They are no smarter or better than the Republicans.

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            The DNC decided to run a geriatric against Trump.

            They didn’t decide shit. Only politicians decide whether they wish to run or not. The DNC literally does not have the power to chose who runs and who doesn’t. You know the DNC is not a person right? The DNC is literally made up of the primary delegates elected by the voters, who then choose a new executive committee every 4 years. Did you put yourself forward as a potential delegate? Stop blaming the DNC for the choices made by the voters.

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            More wHataBoUTiSm from another .ml account.

            Again, just shocked. Tu quoque fallacy at its finest.

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              So you believe the Democrats corruption and incompetence is natural and AIPAC has nothing to do with it. But the Republicans corruption is POOTIN!

              Meanwhile the first person Trump invites is Netanyahu.

              If someone said the same things about Israel controlling the US as you are saying about Russia, ignoring that the links to Russia are far far smaller, you would call them an anti Semite.

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    The Trump administration says it put the tariffs in place to force China, Mexico and Canada to stop the spread and manufacturing of fentanyl, in addition to pressuring Canada and Mexico to limit any illegal immigration into the United States.

    Can anyone else see any actual logic to this? Do the Trump Republicans really believe this, or are they just saying it? What do they really want to achieve, apart from Trump being able to see himself as a tough guy?

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      There’s no logic to it at all. It’s absolutely not about that.

      Almost no fentanyl is getting into the US from Canada. A vanishingly small amount of illegal immigration occurs through the Canadian border.

      It’s just fascism and imperialism.

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        The majority of fentanyl being smuggled into America is being smuggled in by American citizens. It’s not like cocaine or cannabis. You can smuggle a huge amount of fentanyl in a tiny bottle. Why risk sending it with an undocumented person?

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        One would think there would be some talk about precursors… But nope just tax it 25 % that will be sure to get producers to stop. Pure idiocy

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      Saw a policy expert say it’s a mixture of 3 things really:

      1. Trump likes to blame outsiders for problems and this is well received by his loyal base and gives off strongman vibes
      2. long term plan to switch from income tax (scales the more you earn) to consumption taxes (the poorer you are the more you pay for for consumption, relatively speaking) which benefits the rich at the expense of the poor. this wealth transfer is easier to sell when the populace is focused on outsiders
      3. Trump doesn’t understand basic economics

      source: https://youtu.be/2I1L1fXaYDs

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        Tarrifs get paid to the Treasury, the Treasury is getting controlled by Musk and Trump, they can take whatever they want from those funds. Whos going to stop them? The Supreme Court takes bribes which can come from the same pot.

        He just needs to keep a bit of support until all angles are secured. So he just spreads lies and blames everything on people here illegally to keep people pitted against each other. The largest source of illegals in this country is from overstaying Visas, the thing they are expanding to higher numbers… Aka more people to keep blaming shit on while putting on a show of deporting the ones that are already here.

        Honestly doesn’t look like they’ll need much time to accomplish it.

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        They absolutely want to implement a national sales tax. They’ve been talking about it for a very long time and now they have the power to do it. And it’s very much a “fuck the poor” policy.

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        Or they are just thinking of a quick cash grab … gut the system and get as much wealth out of everything and everyone as fast and as much as possible … let it all crash then abandon everything with all their money and let someone else fix everything.

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          I think in that scenario it’s more likely that they would “buy the dip” then that they would up and leave. Some of the billionaires also want to found their own techno-fashist fiefdoms. This could be a good catalyst for that.

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      A. Enact sales tax on poor people so that they can fund further corporate tax cuts
      B. Ruin relationships with the closest American allies as that is a net benefit for geopolitical rivals like Russia, who Trump is demonstrably in bed with
      C. Market value collapse let’s all the rich cronies that have crawled up Trump’s asshole buy out what’s left of America’s assets at fire sale prices. 10 richest men doubled their wealth during covid. They want that to happen again.

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      Except now it will be branded FreedomFlation ™. This is done to put our glorious Dear Leader and his pals like fElon on a pedestal! Don’t worry if you and your kids go to bed hungry and have no idea if you’ll keep your home tomorrow…donvict will bask in the glory of a brand new, gloriously golden 'merica.

      And no complaining about it to anyone, because there will be donvict colluders to snitch on you for your thought crimes and redhatters hanging around with special uniforms to send you and your family off to glorious reeducation camps, er, centers, so you’ll be thinking properly again in no time!

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    As a Canadian, I’ve already seen my nearest grocery store put up labels on shelves like “made in Canada” and aside from pricing it is gonna make it easier to avoid American products

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    American here.

    Don’t counter with tarrifs. Counter with embargoes. Trump loaded you a gun and handed it to you. Pull the fucking trigger already.

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      Counter by decriminalizing everything to do with violations of US intellectual property. Ignore all US patents. Let Canadian drug companies make pharmaceuticals without having to pay for a US license. Let repair shops disable the DRM systems that prevent HP printers from accepting any old generic ink. Let Canadian broadcasters show US movies and TV shows without kicking back money to Hollywood. Let Canadian farmers repair their tractors without first kicking back money to John Deere. Allow anybody who wants to to jailbreak iPhones, and sell kits that allow other people to do that. Free Canadians from having to kick 30% of every purchase back to Apple in California.

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          I’m pretty sure that the margins are slim enough in the house and senate that if Trump suggested military action against Canada, that his wings would be clipped.

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        That was Cory Doctorow’s recent take on it too. Trump just threw out the trade agreement with Canada and Mexico he was so proud to say was his accomplishment, after renegotiating NAFTA. They really should say fine, stew in your own mess. Ignore patents, crank out cheap pharmaceuticals, forget about DRM. Nationalize US factories on their soil. Will hurt for a while until new trade is established, but there is the whole rest of the planet to trade with.

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          Nationalize US factories on their soil

          This is extreme and could warrant an invasion from the US. Wars have been fought for less. Look at what happened to Guatemala when they wanted to take back some of the half off their farmland owned by Chiquita.

          Canada is a mid-sized power but not really in a position to flaunt US power like that

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            Canada is part of Nato. Isn’t trump going to leave Nato? So that would mean all of Nato would be on Canada’s side. That is one hell of a leg to stand on.

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              Nato doesn’t have the navy to help Canada in a fight. Assuming America isn’t torn apart by a civil war as factions of the military defects and there’s a revolution in the streets. (60/40 at that point. Fighting a century old ally is a red line that would absolutley cause a civil war)

              the US navy would chuckle as the french and british and other relevant navies lie at the bottom of the atlantic. And at that point, Russia moves in and Europe is in a land war while the US decides to partner with Russia.

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                I dunno, Invasion requires a ground war. If the US attacked thier ships, they can just essentially blockade the US at ports of entry. The US can’t invade all points of entry and ensure safe passage. One shoulder mounted missle can take care of that. The US just can’t win that exchange. It takes 100x the force to secure than to disrupt. And in general the Uzs doesn’t have the troops to protect all it’s assets overseas. Nato would cripple us in a week.

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                  this conversation was specifically about the US turning aggressive against Canada. the US turning on its allies and getting its global presence destroyed is one thing (I dont think that would happen, either). But to be clear, in this scenario we are talking about, If the US went aggressive against Canada, there is absolutely nothing NATO can do to help Canada except fingerwag, or nuke America.

                  And if Nuclear weapons were threatened, you could bet your ass the Mouth Foaming Z-Nazi party in Russia would rush to the aid of America, and declare that they were ready to invade and launch on the “Insane Europeans” to help the “Americans we have no problem with”

                  Russia wants to be hegemon of Eurasia, or at the very least Europe. If America wants to sacrifice it’s world influence and power to set up some kafkaesque one state entity across north America, Russia is more than happy to let them have it as long as they get their peice of the pie.

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            This is an insane hypothetical but the worst thing is I can totally see Trump declaring a “military intervention into the Canadian comunist takeover of US interests and property” or something like that

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      I get what you’re saying, but the US being Canada’s biggest trading partner would absolutely destroy Canadian economy right together with the US economy

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        The Canadian economy will be ruined by any kind of half-measures.

        Don’t negotiate with a fascist state. Cut them off, recall ambassadors, and cease all joint military operations.

        Trump will never do anything to benefit Canada, so why give him an ounce of cooperation?

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          Because we still need our own economy?

          If Canada 100% stops trading with the US it will wreck havoc on the economy. Sure, it’ll hurt the US too, and yes, it’s a fascist state at this point, but you still gotta live, eat, etc…

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            Brother, your economy is getting gigafucked by Trump either way.

            You can slow-roll it, with the impact lasting decades, or the world can sign up for one shitty month that will result in Trump being neutered by Congressional Republicans who are terrified of 2026.

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              Oh sure, I’d love to watch the entire world rallying together against trump.

              I’m just saying that you still have a country with people that need food on the table. That “shitty month” you’re talking about can and probably will mean the literal end for countless people and entire families.

              This is not a game with only 10 factors, it’s real life with thousands upon thousands of factors. It’s not that easy.

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      We’re doing both. Both BC and Ontario are cutting off American Booze. That’s gonna hurt American company’s hard.

      My hope if Trump keeps it up we cut off the power, and better yet the gas. Although that might make him try to invade or something.

      Up next will be him calling Canadians Nazis and trying to annex Quebec.

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    Now that is a leader! His comments underline the senselessness of these tariffs:

    “If President Trump wants to usher in a new ‘golden age’ for the United States, the better path is to partner with Canada not to punish us. Canada has the ingredients necessary to build a booming and secure partnership for the North American economy and we stand at the ready to work together.”

    “We will stand strong for Canada. We will stand strong to ensure our countries continue to be the best neighbours in the world.”

    How could you not ask for a better friend even when you’re (US) being an asshole?

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    Isn’t it great that a narcissistic jackass with no understanding of economics is Duning-Krogering all to death?

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    I wonder how long Trump and his buddies are going to be able to ignore the mess they are making of the stock market now which hurts his businesses world supporters. It certainly is going to hurt US car companies hard.

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      At this point it’s probably good if he continues with more tariffs. If these were all suddenly removed tomorrow his base would still believe he knows good economic policy. More tariffs will continue to hurt the economy decisively showing them how bad these isolationist policies are.

      Obviously the economy will be hurt by tariffs, but that’s the point and a worthwhile sacrifice for a sustained healthy economic policy in the future.

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      This is all on purpose to tank the American economy and put the country in such chaos that Trump can call an emergency, suspend the constitution indefinitely and the GOP can stay in power. All the while there will be a mass redistribution of wealth so great to the already rich that everyone else will be destitute.