they’ll block all servers that host Mastodon

This will be a never-ending game of whack-a-mole.

Like how China tries to block VPNs that get around their firewall. There’s always another VPN that China hasn’t blocked yet, and there’ll always be another fediverse server that any other authoritarian regime hasn’t blocked yet.

Someone mentioned the last mile problem, and someone else responded as if it doesn’t exist based purely on their own situation (right now). I’m pointing out that it does exist with my situation as an example (right now).

That’s all. Should we pretend like there’s no last mile problem?

Maybe in some ideal world, the last mile problem could be solved purely with public transit. We don’t live in that world. Investing as of we live in an ideal world is foolish.

If one approach is effective for more people, that’s great, but shouldn’t we also invest in solutions that fill the gap?

Here’s a summary of this thread:

Guy 1 - why is anyone doing waymo when there’s public transit

Guy 2 - last mile problem

Guy 3 - it works great for me in the city surrounded by bus stops, no last mile problem

Me - it doesn’t work great for me barely outside the city. (My point being that it’ll take a lot to get public transit to within 1 mile of where I am, let alone to someone even further from the city)

You - that’s your own fault so stop complaining

Me - so fuck me and everyone farther out than me apparently.

That’s how we got here. I simply stated my situation as it relates to public transit, and you tell me it’s just my own fault and I should shut up.

We have a long way to go to get ubiquitous public transit in America. I doubt we will ever get there. It makes sense to consider other options as well.

I’m saying we should go to the moon AND develop nuclear fusion.

You want to know what’s harmful to discussion? Pricks like you telling people that their opinion is irrelevant.

So fuck everyone who can’t afford to, or doesn’t want to, live in the city?

I can, do, and will vote for officials that want to expand public transit. I also appreciate other efforts being taken, because I don’t let perfect be the enemy of the good, and I recognize that no one solution works for everyone.

I live on a 40mph road with no sidewalk or shoulder. That is connected to a 45mph road with no sidewalk or shoulder. My nearest bus stop is 3.2 miles away.

I’m not even that far out, I can drive to a major city downtown in 30 minutes.

That’s great that you have all this infrastructure around you, but not everyone does. Like you said, a lack of perspective is not an excuse.

You are so confident that you know what people are thinking. I didn’t feign confusion, you are just a terrible communicator and incredibly hard to follow.

I tried to be patient and have a clear honest conversation with you, but you are clearly not capable of having honest conversation. You are an incredibly dishonest, arrogant, and irrational person, and I don’t see any way to have productive conversation with you. So I’ll be blocking you now. I hope you figure out how to stop being a dickhead.

I voted for the genocide supporter you wanted me to instead of the genocide supporter you are ok with because it gives you an excuse to blame the left.

What does this even mean? I wanted you to vote for Harris. Did you vote for Harris? You also say something about my “buddies on the right”, so do you think I wanted you to vote for Trump, and therefore you voted for Trump? I wish you’d speak more directly instead of throwing in all these ambiguous assumptions.

Assuming you voted for Harris, it sounds like we are actually on mostly the same page. I voted for Harris. You voted for Harris (I think? I wish you would just give straight answers). Everyone should have voted for Harris. But Harris wasn’t good, we deserve better, and I want to see better.

I also would have preferred that Harris had changed for the better. Why do you assume that isn’t what I wanted? Who are my “buddies on the right”? I don’t have any right-wing friends that I’m aware of.

It’s a shame that you have to go making an ass out of yourself by jumping to all sorts of unfounded assumptions about who I am or what I think. If you would just engage honestly this would be a lot easier.

You seem all upset and lashing out at anyone who bothers to engage with you. Take a step back and go touch some grass or something.

I acknowledged that we could and should have better candidates. That doesn’t impact the fact that you have those 4 options when it comes to voting.

Regardless of what anyone does to push for better candidates, these are the options at that moment:

• Vote for Harris

• Vote for trump

• Vote for someone with no chance of winning

• Don’t vote.

Which of those options are you choosing? Or are you going to avoid the question again?

How does that even apply?

I’m a voter. Presidential election is happening. Both options suck, but one is extra awful.

So the correct action is to run for president myself? And somehow build up grassroots support for myself over a series of 3 months sufficient to win? Too late.

We need someone to do that, yea, but that’s no longer the action being taken in regards to the 2024 election. You still have to: vote Harris, vote Trump, vote for someone with no chance of winning, or not vote.

So while you “grab a hose” which of those 4 actual actions are you taking?

Then what do you mean? No firefighters were running, therefore what? What would be the correct action for a person to take when voting in the 2024 presidential election?

You’re making a lot of assumptions here. I don’t even know what you think you are arguing against.

You seemed to be arguing for not voting or voting third party rather than voting for Harris with the whole “firefighters” analogy.

I was pointing out that by many not voting, or by voting third party, we’ve ended up with someone who is not only not a firefighter, to continue you analogy, but someone who is actively setting the fires.

Now I hate democracy and progressives and Palestinians apparently? You’ve broken the thread here.

So we allowed the arsonist to get the position when we could have had someone who was at worst ineffective.

Seems like you read the first two sentences of my post and stopped there, so you completely missed the point.

It’s not JS that is the problem. It’s an issue of client resource use. That would be true no matter what language is being used.

That’s not necessarily special to JS. It’s special to client-side code. A mobile app writing in swift could do this. A cli tool written in any language could do this.

This isn’t an argument against JS, it’s an argument against misuse of client resources.