First energy usage is not watts, second you can look via tools like hwinfo or others how much power your cpu draws. Where did i say it would draw 6.5w at 10%?

Dude go measure your cpu usage while scrolling a site i can watch a high res video with cpu usage under 10% measuring the difference between no active program and only the os is nearly impossible. Why dont you go and log your cpu power for doing this vs only your os running and report back? If your cpu usage keeps being above say 25% while loading a normal site without funky stuff going on, something is weird. Also keep in mind that even if one of your cores is boosting for a second you cpu usage as a whole over time is still low and low power draw at low clocks will benefit you.

Yea exactly, you load a page your cpu will boost for 1% of the time you spend on that page while loading it and then idle at a few Mhz for your os. I dont get the “it doesnt idle”. With a slim linux system it propably idles a lot more than with win11.

If the system is powered the cpu is always doing something. Idle doesnt mean that your pc is off it just means no “real” load. Modern cpus are so powerfull that browsing the web is no real cpu load. It may be a few % difference than just the os itself but windows backround tasks will propably make more impakt on the cpu load.

Enlighten me! When is a cpu idleing?

Ahh yes idle=not using computer and using computer=100% cpu usage. There is no such thing as “reading a pdf document” or “surfing the web”.

The problem is just the infinity fabric that connects the chiplets. Afaik this is because its clock runs at a consstant speed and its made on a way bigger node. The monolithic parts dont have that problem.

Nah all the am4 cpus have abysmal idle power, the am5 got a little better as far as i know but the infinity fabric was a nightmare for the idle power.

Idle power is the only thing they are good at, but for a homeserver a used older cpu is good enough.

Yea my point was if people stopped using the apps then the big players will lobby the governemt to revert shit like that. But i also think that long term all big players would love to normalize taking your picture to open their app. Every bit of information they can sell is a win for them.

Its not like every industrie can somehow lobby every consumer right away when someone wants to make a new law… oh wait they do…