I don’t know much about this case, but I do know about science and labs and unless they had a full home lab, this is absolutely for nefarious purposes or these people are the dumbest scientists ever. You absolutely do not carry out experiments on biological or environmental hazards without the proper precautions and if they were the only people aware of what they were bringing back and the whole lab was not in on it or at least informed, it wouldn’t have mattered because it would have become an issue regardless.

Just a preemptive note that I’m not anti china and what the us is doing to all immigrants and foreign nationals is disgusting.

Being wealthy. Having no understanding of science and not realizing your personal experience isn’t everyone’s personal experience. Name a more iconic duo.

You’re the one that brought up my age and what you perceived to be my life experience and then suggested I not judge people. I’m not making it about me. I’m making my position clear, since apparently it was not understood. I don’t want there to be any confusion. Best of luck.

I’m neither, but ok.

My comment acknowledged that life can be hard, but admittedly assumed that a lot of stressors are outside the home. Plenty of stressors inside the home as well of course, but I was just mentioning what my first thoughts were. I passed absolutely no judgement in my comment, to my knowledge. Please feel free to let me know what part came off as judgmental. That was not my intention.

I’m not saying my life is difficult, but just because someone is not involved in drug use doesn’t mean that they’ve had it easy.

Both good points.

They say there’s been a drop off in alcohol usage and sex too if I remember correctly, so I imagine it might all be tied to less partying, and sadly somewhat indicative of more social isolation.

Narcan was also so heavily discussed that even I thought about having some on me just in case, but honestly I’m not really in any positions where I’d need it, so getting it felt like it’d be more virtue signaling than actually helping anyone lol. But I’m sure if I thought it’d ever actually come in handy that I and other people I know would have made sure to have it. I imagine people who interact with people susceptible to overdose would feel similarly.

Not sure if this is a joke, but I’m sorry if you’re legitimately struggling with this.

I was figuring job loss leading to less income, plus stay at home orders leading to less ability to meet/congregate with people supplying/using, plus change in supply lines possibly leading to difficulties acquiring or at least a rise in prices. That plus a decrease in possible other stressors, time for introspection, and time to get and stay clean without concern for other priorities seemed to make it a good time to try to quit. I’m not really involved in that so I don’t know though. Just speculation. I know people who quit smoking and drinking, but that’s obviously very different. That was mostly because they didn’t smoke/drink alone so they were able to go a bit without and decided to keep it that way.

I’m surprised there wasn’t a bigger drop during Covid.

I swear to god if they run Pete (which seems like he’s gearing up for it) I will explode from sheer rage. Pete has nothing to offer but more of the same. I hate hearing people pretend like he has a chance. It’s absolute delusion and is exactly the problem with all the other democrats. He is uninspiring and we will loose and it will be our fault.

Medicare for all who want it. Lmaoooooooooo. So upsetting. I’ve never heard a democrat say something more cringe and I watched Hillary say Pokémon go to the polls live.

Your main point that dropping out does not equate to being a bad candidate is valid though.

I hate to stress a point, but Bush v Gore was 2000, and Bush elected two Supreme Court judges that would then go on to decide citizens United under a Bush appointed chief justice.

I don’t know if things definitely would’ve gone differently, but I imagine there would at least be different judges in place.

I’m happy to trace this issue back to the founding fathers, but Bush v Gore was the beginning of the end in my opinion.

Regan was awful, but how did Nixon get elected before that and so on? At a certain point there’s a direct line between compromises made during the drafting of the constitution and where we are today. I don’t know where we can realistically draw the line. They saw the problems back then, even warning against two party systems.

What happened with Sanders was just evidence of an already compromised system, and thinking about it now I don’t know that much would’ve been different. The Trump apparatus was already firmly in place.

It is pretty clear to most people that they are not saying someone posed as a McDonalds employee. I’m not sure if you’re being deliberately obtuse, but in case you or anyone else is misunderstanding, they are suggesting the following: A cop/fed illegally obtained his whereabouts. They follow him into a McD. The cop/fed goes up to McD employee and says “you should call in a tip there’s a big reward”. They don’t mention they are a cop/fed to the McD employee. Now that there is a record of “an anonymous tip” they have an on the books explanation of how they located him without having to disclose how they actually were able to track him.

I’m not saying that’s what happened, but you seem to have repeatedly misunderstood so I’m just making it clear.

This is all obvious theater and many of these are just pics of these people. No way to tell if they’ve actually been arrested before or if it’s just random security footage, but the text differences might be that different states have different terminology. What classifies as rape or molestation or contact or anything else can differ from place to place. It might still be AI, but it’s not unusual for the same crime to have different names depending on where it was committed.

People pay to take this exam. Someone decided to pocket some of that money for their org and have an AI org do some of it instead of qualified professionals. They didn’t bother to check the output. It came out poorly and now they have to eat the cost of going back and fixing it. The students and proctors are not compensated for the added time and stress, but paid the same for an overall worse experience. It’s a microcosm of everything wrong with the way AI is being used.

Even so, the guy said he told everyone he was a citizen. If someone asks me if I’m here on a visa and I respond “no” and then they arrest me and I’m like “I’m a citizen” you can’t then act like they were using trick questions for plausible deniability. The second I say I’m a citizen that goes out the window regardless of what I was asked. If the guy answered every question with “I’m a citizen and (answer)” I don’t think the result would be any different, so allowing them to hide behind “trick questions” obscures the fact that they are lying to get POC rounded up. They are lying and they don’t need “trick questions” because they don’t care what your answer is. You could answer the trick question “correctly” and still be rounded up. Anything suggesting that the fault lies in anything but the institution and its officers is a distraction imho. So I feel like “trick question” is a deflection/distraction and I have not read anything to even suggest that’s the case. It seems like they 1) didn’t believe him and 2) lied to cover it up. I have not read anything that suggests the citizen in question answered a question that may have been suspicious but I have read that he was not believed.

1. based on the articles about this, that’s probably not what happened and they just flat out lied, just like they did in the other recent case of detained US citizen
2. even if they DID ask that and he for whatever reason answered “no” and refused to elaborate and never bothered to mention that he was a US citizen (hint: not what happened - he said he was a citizen every step of the way), that is still not “admitting to being here illegally” and portraying it as such is a deliberate misrepresentation

Fascist don’t need your help, especially if you just have conjecture on your side.

I guess my main issue is that there are plenty of civilians who are making a stand who have not sworn any such oath.

I don’t mean this as a personal attack, but “I was young then - I have a family now” doesn’t really mean much to me, seeing as that applies to plenty of other people who are doing something. The alternative is not “get fired today”. I know government employees who were unceremoniously let go and offered nothing. This is not the choice these people were facing. My opinion of these people means nothing, and certainly means even less than nothing when compared to keeping their family safe, but this is not an SS officer demanding to know where you’re hiding the undesirables or they’ll kill your family. This is the party asking if you’ll kindly step aside so that they can install a nazi in your place. Admittedly, I don’t have a lot of faith in the ethics and morals of vets anyway. Veteran status is the second best single predictor of candidate choice (next to education), to my knowledge. So I guess I don’t really expect them to be any better than average, but it’s just sad to see that assumption is accurate.

For what it’s worth, your/their family will continue to be eligible for VA benefits regardless of where you’re/they’re currently employed. Most of those benefits have no civilian counterparts, so most civilians making that choice have even less safety net. I know Trump/republicans have been working hard to make sure you all don’t have a safety net either, but stepping down politely when asked isn’t making it harder for him to do that.

I truly hope martyrdom is not needed, but people will die because of Trump and they will not have the luxury of a choice. There will be people that stand in Trumps way, and those will unsurprisingly not be people who swore to protect the nation and its people. They’ll just be people choosing to do what they can when they can.

I do appreciate you sharing your perspective.

Maybe it’s just me, but when I see veterans taking buyouts or capitulating to Trump, it upsets me. They took an oath to defend the Constitution and yet they can’t stay in a job to making the incoming fascists work just a little harder? If they’re still referring to their time in the army or are eligible for VA benefits, they should be fighting fascism. We’re all trying our best, and I’m not asking everyone to stay, even though that’d be great if they could, but way to fold like a wet napkin.

Yea, there were klansmen voting for Obama because they legitimately thought it’d make the whole country kick out black people. People hold really weird beliefs.

It makes me so proud to see people talk about undocumented people positively, so thank you for sharing that (I’m assuming the impact they had was positive, apologies if that’s not the case).

Yea, plenty of people have latched onto the general ideology without familiarizing themselves with either the fundamentals or modern praxis. I will wholly admit that I’m not extremely well versed, having only read the most pop-philosophy books/essays. I like to think I make up for it in praxis, but I know we’re all works in progress and I could definitely still benefit from more reading/work. I think alienation has made actually connecting with the OG works harder, but hopefully both L and R magas and everyone in between gets a chance to find themselves in it. Thanks for the reminder.

That’s valid in theory, but I am literally just pointing out a fact. A fact which other people have gotten wrong and are actively spreading misinformation about. Misinformation that harms a minority and underprivileged population, which I’m assuming they care about. I feel like conceptually we should be on the same side, but they refused to even consider that someone else might be right so have just jumped to calling me illiterate apparently. I’m not saying that undocumented students should be deported or anything. I’m literally just advocating for them, because they exist, and it’s important that people know that. Otherwise when the government is accused of departing them everyone will act like they don’t exist and therefore can’t be deported.

I am legitimately struggling to tell the difference between fascists and overzealous leftists who just don’t know what they’re talking about. It’s a very bad position to be in. But, to your point, I guess either way I should give them grace, because obviously their issue is with the system and they are just mistakenly taking it out on me.