In 1998, 48% of respondents in one survey said they never used the internet. Just a few years later, weekly use was growing more normal. Now, it’s everywhere, all the time.
Define “being useless”. It certainly seems that “being useless”, to you, it is either “not working” or “not creating monetary value”, which would be super ironic given that there are many jobs around the world that make the person feel useless or worse
I’d say that anyone that feels the need to define themselves “by their role” has no clue on who they are or can be, needing the rest of society to direct them
I don’t and I bet many people don’t as well. I define myself by what I know, who I know, what I believe, like and dislike, have done and can do. Roles can be assigned, but they only serve as oversimplifications of what’s expected of people. The role of “mother” only means that a woman has one or more children. Whether said children are blood related, adopted, whether she’s a “good” or “bad” mother, whether she’s married, widow, single, etc etc, is up in the air.
Your second argument there doesn’t need roles to be answered either, or do you think only specific roles can help people? Life isn’t an RPG with clear-cut classes
I was paraphrasing and trying to be nice. Fine, you didn’t say humans yearn for the workplace. You said humans existentially require the workplace.
I think if AI replaces humans in the workplace, even with UBI, humans would cease to exist shortly thereafter as our lives will have become meaningless
Only because you’re only reading the comment at face value. Humans existentially require roles. Sometimes that role is caregiver, sometimes it’s parent, and sometimes it’s fireman or garbage truck driver. If we live in a world where machines can do everything better than humans, what is the point of a human? If a robot does all the work around the house and cooks and cleans and I get a check for a few thousand every month, what am I contributing to my family? If I’m not a provider, what am I?
And you can say this is some kind of capitalist indoctrination but I sincerely believe this is biology. Men, especially, define themselves by their ability to contribute to their families or to society. Men are impacted more heavily by layoffs than women are, for example. When a man loses his job he’s likely to fall into a depressive malaise of self pity and feelings of uselessness.
You have a very limited view of what life should, or even can be.
It’s not a normative statement. I don’t necessarily think it’s good. I just don’t think people can be happy being useless
Define “being useless”. It certainly seems that “being useless”, to you, it is either “not working” or “not creating monetary value”, which would be super ironic given that there are many jobs around the world that make the person feel useless or worse
I’d say that anyone that feels the need to define themselves “by their role” has no clue on who they are or can be, needing the rest of society to direct them
Everyone defines themselves by their role. If you’re only living for yourself, not helping anyone or doing anything for anyone else, why live?
I don’t and I bet many people don’t as well. I define myself by what I know, who I know, what I believe, like and dislike, have done and can do. Roles can be assigned, but they only serve as oversimplifications of what’s expected of people. The role of “mother” only means that a woman has one or more children. Whether said children are blood related, adopted, whether she’s a “good” or “bad” mother, whether she’s married, widow, single, etc etc, is up in the air.
Your second argument there doesn’t need roles to be answered either, or do you think only specific roles can help people? Life isn’t an RPG with clear-cut classes
People are being harsh with the downvotes but I get what you mean. I get bored and restless doing nothing productive for long lengths of time.
I’m also guessing you don’t mean a 40 hour grind where all the profit goes to a small group of individuals in your example.
If I was told I could work or study but didn’t have to and it was public profits, I’d probably still end up doing a 20-25 hours a week in something.
You are a bit harsh with it though. I wouldn’t say just family and hobbies is hollow.
You said people yearn for “the workplace”
No I didn’t
I was paraphrasing and trying to be nice. Fine, you didn’t say humans yearn for the workplace. You said humans existentially require the workplace.
Only because you’re only reading the comment at face value. Humans existentially require roles. Sometimes that role is caregiver, sometimes it’s parent, and sometimes it’s fireman or garbage truck driver. If we live in a world where machines can do everything better than humans, what is the point of a human? If a robot does all the work around the house and cooks and cleans and I get a check for a few thousand every month, what am I contributing to my family? If I’m not a provider, what am I?
And you can say this is some kind of capitalist indoctrination but I sincerely believe this is biology. Men, especially, define themselves by their ability to contribute to their families or to society. Men are impacted more heavily by layoffs than women are, for example. When a man loses his job he’s likely to fall into a depressive malaise of self pity and feelings of uselessness.