• Jo Miran@lemmy.ml
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    3 days ago

    Forced pregnancy is a weapon for the subjugation of women. Weak men fear strong women and competition. Easy as that.

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      I mean if you are tolerant towards conscription (AKA Death) then why shouldn’t you be tolerant towards giving life ?

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        What does conscription have to do with any of this? And I think most people are tolerant towards ‘giving life’. No-one is talking about criminalising pregnancy. You’re responding to a comment about forcing women to carry pregnancies, which is very different. Disappointing that so many men are against abortion, but it shouldn’t be surprising - after all, it’s not them who have to suffer.

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          Conscription = Forcing men to die in wars, where there’s ACTUAL suffering. Leftists are pretty tolerant to that (E.g: Finland) because it’s not women who have to get shot in the face or have PTSD.

          Same reasoning here. Child-Birth isn’t as traumatic as you claim & I have the healthcare industry to back me up. So my question is if you don’t have a problem with forced death, then why have a problem with forced life (So my point is why the hypocrisy)

          Especially when you’ll complain about fertility rates later down the road.

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        Cause it needs to be a choice. Forcing someone to be born into a family that didn’t want them is recipe for disaster.

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          Choice of whom ?? The child who should be given a chance to live or adults who want to kill a child because they want to play god ?

          Why not give the child to a childless couple that wants a child ?

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            Sure as soon as all the current kids in the system are adopted to loving homes, Then you may convince me that this is an option.

            Growing up unwanted or just flat out poor is haunting. I recall an episode of naked and afraid where a dude in his 50s is still working through being put into the system because his mom gave him up. Have some empathy for the people who suffer there entire lives because their parents didnt get a choice.

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                Can’t kill what never existed. That’s the point. It was never a person. Never had the chance to be one.

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                  Oh really ?? Then why is the murder of a pregnant woman considered double-homicidr ?

                  What was the definition of homicide again ? Oh riiiiiiiight…

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                    A wanted child deserves protection because it will be a person. an unwanted does not because it will never be one thanks to modern medicine.