I’m an artist with music on Spotify. I honestly don’t know how I feel about this.
I know Metallica got a lot of shit about Napster back in the day, but I can’t help but feel like they were right. They were (by my recollection) trying to ensure artists still have a claim to their body of work. I know the industry has come so far since then, but it feels like the moment everything started to slowly become “content” and not art.
I just want real people to actually enjoy my music. I don’t expect to make a living or even real money off my music, but I also don’t like someone else making money off my art and using it to train AI models.
I made something meaningful, no one else gets to decide that they wanna commodify it or use it to make slop.
Anything you post online should be considered permanently online. It’s really outdated to think exclusive ownership is possible online. The way I think about it is that anything I put online is for everyone, good or bad, and not for profit.
Of course Spotify doesn’t have all the music in the world, but it’s a great start
Hahahaha
Just remember to try really hard to not to seed it and say it’s training data… And it’s fair use.
Since day one, we have stood with the artist community against piracy, and we are actively working with our industry partners to protect creators and defend their rights.
Lmao. They protect and defend artist rights so hard they they’ve refused to pay a fair compensation, and have taken it further by promoting AI artists over actual artists. This statement is almost comical after it was reported that they’ve had copy cats to replace King Glizard and the Lizard Wizard when they pulled their albums from Spotify
Any sauce on the KGLW story? Had not heard of this.
Thank you!
It have never been a fight against privacy, it’s a fight against freedom
I’m sure it’s been scraped plenty of times by AI companies who are doing way more damage.
Yeah but that’s damage to artists. AI music gives Spotify something to put into a playlist that they don’t have to pay even their meagre rate to.
It hurts record companies. They want to own all AI generated music. It’s quite clear with what happened to udio. It’s monopolies against open source, not AI against artists.
These millions of audio files have done nothing wrong. Keeping them locked away is scandalous. Release them immediately !
/dad joke, sorryI dare to wage that the top 1000 most popular artists entire body of work is already freely available in torrent form. The remainder of artists will benefit from an independent archival point of view.
How dare they, someone should call, PETM. People for the ethical treatment of music. Those poor songs locked up all day.
I thought it was gonna be some no-name group that was gonna hold it ransom etc. But it’s actually by Anna’s-archive. I don’t really condone piracy (pay the people who make art, and those who make it accessible), but if anyone was going to do it, I’m glad it’s them.
I don’t support piracy either. I just torrent it for free. 🏴☠️
Spotify absolutely deserves to be singled out for its exploitative practices, especially since this company is largely responsible for musicians not being paid fairly for their hard work. It’s just a shame that there’s hardly anything to steal here other than people’s hard work, to which Spotify has contributed nothing - but that applies to all companies that are successful on the internet today. Without exception, all of these companies are built on the same platform logic: the content that these companies exploit is paid for with starvation wages, if at all (not at all in the case of LLMs).
Therefore, I cannot see anything positive in this because it does not change the underlying problem in the slightest.
The major labels are still the biggest evil
Spotify & Co. make advance payments to the labels to be allowed to use their music catalogues. These advance payments are then recouped with the streaming revenues. However, if the revenue is less than the advance, the difference remains with the labels as “breakage”. If a streaming service pays a label US $1 million as an advance for the contract period, but the label’s catalogue is only streamed to the value of US $750,000, then the label has US $250,000 in additional revenue that does not have to be distributed to the artists.
Nevertheless, Spotify makes more profit than any music label, even more than all the remaining music labels combined. This is how it works today: music, literature, journalism, and art no longer exist according to this logic - only content. And as disrespectful as the term sounds, that’s how it’s paid for - with scrabs because that’s the business model.
Your pirate approach is no longer up to date, because it is no longer directed against large corporations, but robs artists of the little they have left. This will only accelerate the trend: no one will try to make a living from art anymore. If you think that people will do it anyway because they want to express themselves, I think you are absolutely wrong.
It’s not accelerating the trend one bit by opening it to everyone. Music labels and Spotify don’t plan on putting a stop to AI, they want to own it. The artists lost decades ago and siding with copyright juggernauts doesn’t help anyone but the copyright juggernauts.
It makes more profits but not revenus
Market cap and profits are different metrics. At the end of the day major labels dictate streaming services policies . Considering that they own 80% of all music
Lars Ulrich is raging,he’s gonna sue.
gonna have to wait an extra 2 months to get that gold plated shark tank.
The sharks are gonna be so bummed, I know they had their hearts set on it.
Wasn’t it just meta data?
No, they just released metadata as the first batch. The rest will follow.
So far.
I used some software to download music from them and they locked me out of my account for violating their ToS.
“… Found to be 48% AI Slop”
I hope musicbrainz hops on the metadata list
Where will all of this be posted? … So that I can avoid it, ofc.
Anna’s
